The Cosmetic Dentistry Blog

September 29, 2007

New porcelain/zirconia crowns are too big

Filed under: Crowns for front teeth — iowasmiles @ 3:57 pm

Dr. Hall,
I just spent thousands of dollars on dental work. We finally got to the end with 4 Porcelain/zirconuim crowns on my top front teeth. They are bulky, they are thick front to back and they stick out a little further than my adjacent teeth. My dentist said that they restored my teeth to what they would have been prior to decay. My teeth were NEVER this big. What can I do as far as my dentist if I am not happy. I thought I would be smiling all the time but now I can’t even stand to look at them.
- Debbie from Texas

Debbie,
You’re another example of what I hear so much. I think the best you can do is help tell your friends to go to an artist/expert cosmetic dentist for their beautiful smile, not to their wonderful, kind, family dentist, so they don’t end up with this same problem.

I’m reading a little in between the lines and making some assumptions here, but it sounds like your dentist is the typical technician-minded dentist who was trained that he or she knows what is best for the patient and thinks that you’re making too big a deal of this appearance issue. The dentist did what he or she thought was best for you, and in their mind, this is their job, and you’re just supposed to accept that.

A true cosmetic dentist understands all the ingredients of a beautiful smile and gives a lot more attention to these appearance issues. He or she will work with you in designing exactly how your teeth will look BEFORE ever doing the case, and then will give you ample opportunity to try the crowns in before they’re cemented to make sure they look the way you want them to. Most general dentists will hand you a mirror while you’re upside-down in the chair and let you have one quick look before they’re permanently cemented. What you really need is the chance to sit up, let your lips assume their natural position, and get a good long time to check them out. Then you know they’re right. Dentists like we list on our web site who are passionate about appearance-related dentistry will make sure you like them before they’re cemented.

At this point, they’re cemented in. Porcelain/zirconia crowns can’t really be trimmed in size much because the dentist would grind through the surface porcelain to the zirconia core, which would give an unacceptable result. If you’re sweet and insistent and communicate how much you hate these crowns, you may be able to talk your dentist into re-doing them and this time making sure you have ample opportunity to see that they’re what you want before they’re permanently cemented. But he or she wouldn’t be legally required to do that because the way most dentists think, it’s the dentist’s job to decide how they should look and whether or not you like them isn’t an important issue.

Dr. Hall

Read more about:
porcelain crowns
porcelain crowns for front teeth
the difference between an expert cosmetic dentist and a general dentist
other types of all-porcelain crowns including zirconia crowns
smile design

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September 26, 2007

Dental bridge or removable partial

Filed under: Dental bridges, Partial dentures — iowasmiles @ 3:07 am

Dr. Hall
My dentist says I need a five unit bridge. I have a lot of bone loss from gum disease and he is afraid a partial will place too much pressure on my teeth since they are somewhat loose. The price he quoted is $5500 plus extraction costs. Is this a reasonable price or should I look elsewhere?
- Lela in Texas

Dear Lela,
The fee is in line for Texas. But I don’t understand why he’s suggesting a dental bridge instead of a removable partial denture. Maybe there’s something different about your situation. But a removable partial places less stress on the adjacent teeth and is much less risky. A bridge puts a lot of stress on the teeth it attaches to. And then, if you have a problem with one of those teeth it is resting on, you have to scrap the whole thing and start over, whereas with a partial you can later add a tooth to it without a lot of work or expense.

I’d encourage you to get a second opinion to see if the bridge is really the best treatment for you.
- Dr. Hall

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September 22, 2007

Pain after new white fillings

Filed under: Teeth sensitivity, White fillings — iowasmiles @ 7:48 pm

I need to find a dentist who has superior skills in cavity restoration (I am not interested in cosmetic dentistry per se). Would I still be well served seeing one of the listed cosmetic dentists? Or would another type of dentist be better?

After decades of regular cleanings no dental issues, I apparantly developed a ton of cavities during this past year with my third pregnancy. After the baby was born I started having severe pain with sweets all over. I went in for a checkup and had seven cavities. I had three filled with composite (her recommendation). One filling is fine. However, two weeks later I still have severe pain with chewing on the other two. They occassionally just ache as well. It is extreme with one of the lower molars. They have checked the bite twice and say it is fine. They offered to drill out and refill saying I might have a crack now. (They have also mentioned root canal and crown). This was a molar with no previous dental work. I feel like I am losing my teeth over what were all supposedly small cavities. It hurts to floss by the fillings. I can’t chew on one side (both the upper and lower fillings hurt) and am desperately trying to figure out whom to see and whom to trust. It’s very frustrating. Six months ago I had no issues with my teeth – just a few old fillings from when I was a kid. I just want someone who is really, really good.

Any help would be appreciated.
- Carol from Minnesota

Carol,
Yes, there may be a problem with the technique of this dentist in doing composite fillings. I hope I am understanding your comments correctly. You are saying “pain from chewing” and not “pain from biting.” There is a difference. You say they have checked the bite, and it is fine. If there is no pain when you clench your teeth together, but there is pain from chewing after a new posterior composite filling on the chewing surface, it almost always will be from a problem with the bond of the new filling to the tooth, and would be fixed if the filling is removed and bonded properly, if you catch it soon enough. See our page on pain after new fillings, and read the second from the last bullet for more information on this problem.

If three out of the four fillings are having this problem, I wouldn’t have this dentist be the one to re-do them, especially since she doesn’t seem to understand the problem. And yes, the recommended Minnesota cosmetic dentists we list, who all have advanced training in bonding technology, would be where to go. They would all understand this problem, and would be excellent.

The problem is that dental schools are very conservative institutions and almost all of them are still teaching amalgam fillings on posterior teeth. So dentists have to pursue the training for doing the composites on their own, and their training is often lacking. They assume that the technique for doing white fillings on posterior teeth is the same for doing them on front teeth (the schools teach how to do them on front teeth), but there are some important differences, and this dentist hasn’t learned them all.

Dr. Hall

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September 19, 2007

Thank you from Ohio!

Filed under: Testimonials about our recommended dentists — iowasmiles @ 10:00 am

Dr. Hall,
I contacted you earlier this spring about tetracycline staining and porcelain veneers. I was concerned about getting a natural looking tooth and not the opaque “chicklet” look that I have seen on others. Your site was invaluable to me in helping me locate a cosmetic dentist. I had initially thought my regular dentist would be ok until I did enough internet searching to see that if I am going to invest this much into my teeth I want someone that really knows what they are doing. I chose Dr. Leach in Columbus, OH. He did a fantastic job on my teeth and I couldn’t have asked for anything more (except free??). Everything he said made sense to me when I met with him for the consult…bleach until we can whiten them as much as possible, take as little off as possible and he even talked me out of getting the lowers done because the color improved so much with tooth bleaching. It was refreshing to have someone not oversell. I just wanted to follow up and say that I really appreciate the service you provide and put a recommendation in for Dr. Leach. THANKS!

- K from Ohio

K,
Thank you for your kind words!
We do genuinely try to help people and list only great dentists who know what they’re doing. We also try to find dentists who have strong ethical feelings and empathy for the patient, though sometimes that’s hard to judge, especially from a distance, so it’s nice to get that feedback about Dr. Leach. Thanks.
- Dr. Hall

(see our Ohio cosmetic dentists page)

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Can you catch tooth decay from kissing?

Filed under: Tooth decay — iowasmiles @ 8:23 am

Dr. Hall,
I noticed that someone I had kissed had a tooth that looked like it was decaying. Can I get sick from kissing that person if they had a decayed tooth in their mouth? This is a serious question not a joke, thank you so much.
- Jamie from California

Jamie,
Tooth decay isn’t contagious. The decayed tooth won’t hurt you at all, no matter how much you kissed this person.

Everyone has the same tooth decay bacteria (lactobacillus) in their mouth. The way the bacteria cause you trouble is when you feed them often or don’t clean them off daily. So brush, floss, don’t snack all day long, and you’ll be fine.

For more information, read our page about tooth decay. Also read about the myth of soft teeth.
- Dr. Hall

Thank you Dr. Hall I feel much better now, I hope he gets his teeth fixed soon.
- Jamie

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September 17, 2007

I’ve been thinking about getting Lumineers, but…

Filed under: Lumineers, Porcelain veneers, Tooth bonding — iowasmiles @ 12:02 pm

Dear Dr. Hall,
It was a blessing to come across your website!

A few years ago I had composite tooth bonding done on 5 of my front teeth because my teeth were very tiny and had some gaps inbetween even after my braces were taken off. I was 15 at the time and needless to say my parents paid for everything. I’m 22 now and even though my smile still looks very decent I notice they’re starting to wear. I have been contemplating getting Lumineers but after reading the horror stories on them I know I’d prefer to just get them bonded again. One thing that has me somewhat scared is that I want to improve my smile but I don’t want people to see too much of a difference. How much would it cost me? What would they do to the bonding I have now?
- Angie in Florida

Angie,
You’ve brought up several good questions. And I hope I haven’t made you too much afraid. All those “horror stories” on the web site have one element in common–the people thought that their family dentist or a general dentist could do cosmetic dentistry. If you go to an artist/dentist, someone who really has that passion for beautiful dentistry and has the training to be able to do it, dentists like we recommend on our web site, you won’t have anything to worry about. Check out our Florida cosmetic dentists. All of them are artists who would do beautiful work.

Now your questions:

What would the cosmetic dentist do? He or she would probably shave down the existing bonding and then re-bond the teeth with composite or with porcelain. From your perspective, it would be very easy. But for the cosmetic dentist, it would require a lot of artistic talent.
And here’s where you would see the difference between a true cosmetic dentist and your family dentist. The cosmetic dentist will make sure you see exactly how you will look before the case is completed. He or she will listen carefully to you, and you will get the color you want, the shapes you want, and everything else the way you want it. A general dentist typically plans out what he or she thinks the teeth should look like and then gives you a quick look just before they bond everything on, and that’s why we get these sad stories of people who get home and don’t like how they look.

How much would it cost? In Florida, I would expect this to cost from $1200 to $2000 per tooth. Check our page on cosmetic dentistry costs for more information.

Will people notice a big difference? I wouldn’t worry about this. I can tell you many stories of people who had major changes to their teeth and their friends could tell they had done something but couldn’t put their finger on it. You’re focusing on your teeth now, but your friends aren’t. They won’t really notice what you have done to your teeth–only that you look better. My strong advice to you is to not hold back but go for the beautiful smile. You can show up with an absolutely stunning smile and the people who are close to you will look at you and say, “What was it–did you get your hair done? Have you lost weight? I can’t put my finger on it, but you look really nice today.” I saw that over and over again in my practice. And I had the same thing happen to me. When I decided to specialize in cosmetic dentistry, I decided to get braces to improve my smile a little. The day I got my braces off, my own family didn’t even notice! I purposely didn’t tell them because I wanted to see for myself if the things my patients had been telling me was true, that people didn’t notice what you had done to your teeth.

Should you just re-do the tooth bonding? I think this would be a mistake. I can’t see any advantage to re-doing the bonding over getting porcelain veneers. The bonding will start to look dull and worn in a few years, and then you’ll have to re-do it again. That’s EXPENSIVE! Since your teeth are too small already, all they’ll have to do to prepare your teeth for porcelain veneers is pretty much to remove the old bonding. And the porcelain will be beautiful for many years, will resist stains, and won’t wear down.

I hope this is helpful.
- Dr. Hall

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September 10, 2007

Worried about dry socket

Filed under: Extractions — iowasmiles @ 10:16 pm

Dear Dr. Hall,
I had a lower first molar extracted this morning. I kept gauze on it most of day, as it kept bleeding. I was told there was no need to restrict food; only told to not eat hot or cold, or use a straw. I stayed with liquids, though, until about an hour ago when I ate a little solid food so I could take ibuprofen. In spite of my best efforts, the hole filled with food. I carefully removed the food, and now there is a LARGE hole! I was not forewarned about possibility of dry socket… What should I do? Should I just wait to see if there is pain, or should I return to the dentist tomorrow? Thank you so very much for your attention. I am grateful and amazed to have found this website. Just sorry I didn’t look for it ahead of time!
- Ruth in New York

Ruth,
Many dentists and dental assistants aren’t aware that the latest research shows that dry socket is an infection that is aided by bone damage that occurs during the surgery, and isn’t caused by physically removing the blood clot. The lost clot is a symptom of the dry socket, and not a cause.

The large hole is normal, and I wouldn’t worry about it. The reason you need to be careful with the surgical site is that you could provoke it to bleed too much. If it’s not bleeding excessively, you should be fine.
Dr. Hall

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September 7, 2007

Crowns too opaque

Filed under: Crowns for front teeth — iowasmiles @ 12:41 pm

Dr. Hall,
In December last year I had 24 teeth fitted with either Procera crowns or porcelain veneers. I have severe tetracycling staining that goes right through my teeth. I met a friend who had similar work done – and was astonished at the difference in appearance of the work. Her teeth looked totally natural and were very translucent. Mine on the other hand looked totally opaque and quite false in comparison. I am so upset. I have been reading on your web-site about the Procera crowns – and I now realise why my teeth look opaque. It is the opaque white core. I had no idea there were different types of porcelain crown! My dentist led me to believe that my teeth would look like natural teeth. And they don’t. Obviously my friend has a different type of porcelain crown. My question is – to cover the dark tetracycling staining – would Procera be my only option? Could I have a more translucent Feldspathic crown/veneer?
- Joanne from London

Joanne,

You’re making the mistake of blaming the material, but what happened is that you went to the wrong dentist. It’s the DENTIST who is supposed to know these things. But most dentists went into dentistry because they like to fix things, and 98 to 99%% of them aren’t artists. Your dentist did Procera because to him or her, this was good enough. Think about it–your dentist is the professional and attends courses and reads journals. Why did he or she choose to do Procera crowns? Don’t you think your dentist, if he or she cared enough, could find out that Procera is opaque, and that being opaque isn’t as beautiful as being translucent? My guess is that your dentist KNEW that Procera is opaque. But your friend went to a dentist who had a better sense of beauty and was more artistic.

To your dentist, I’m sure your teeth look fine. They’re white, and look like natural teeth. That’s why we are trying to set up this network of cosmetic dentists/artists who know how to do beautiful work. Dentists typically are technicians and not artists.

What I’m worried about is that you think that you can just go into a regular general dentist and this time tell them to use feldspathic porcelain instead of Procera and everything will be fine. No, that won’t work. You need to find a dentist who has a passion for beautiful cosmetic dentistry and he or she will take care of all those decisions and will choose a material that will look wonderful. So, as to your question about being able to have feldspathic porcelain, I hesitate to answer, because it is much more complicated than that. My technique with tetracycline stains was to do porcelain veneers, and I would do a deep preparation, and then use a composite opaquer directly on the dentin until the dark color was fully blocked out. Then I would take an impression and send it to the lab, and have them do beautiful, translucent feldspathic porcelain veneers. But there are other techniques that work well and newer porcelains that diffuse the light in such a way as to block color while still maintaining the appearance of translucency. But don’t try to figure this out for yourself and then tell the dentist how to do it. That just doesn’t work.

But you are actually better off than most of those who have written to me after having tetracycline stains masked. Most of them end up with gray teeth because the dentist erred in the other direction and made them too translucent. Tetracycline stains are difficult to cover. The darker color has to be masked. And there are very few dentists who know how to do that well. There are very few dentists who care enough to strive for that level of beauty.
- Dr. Hall

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September 4, 2007

Problems with a crown

Filed under: Dental crowns — iowasmiles @ 11:31 pm

Dr. Hall,
I had a crown on tooth 13 and a root canal on 12. Since the crown was put in, I’ve been having soreness around the gumline and discomfort with biting. Food also gets easily caught between 13 and 14. I feel the crown is in the wrong place. Can it be removed and replaced again? The dentist has tried to adjust the bite 5-6 times. Please help.
- Elsa in Virginia

Elsa,
This crown you have is a problem, but I doubt that it’s in the wrong place. It’s probably just shaped wrong.

I’m concerned as to why your dentist would adjust the bite five or six times. It’s not hard to tell if the bite is off and that should be able to be adjusted when it is put in, or certainly at the first return visit, max. Are you going in, telling him or her it hurts to bite on it, and so he or she is trying to fix that by adjusting the bite? I’m sure the bite must be right by now. I’ll bet it hurts when you bite because of the gum inflammation–that’s my guess.

Catching food between the crown and the tooth behind it, that’s a serious problem that shouldn’t be tolerated, and it may mean that the crown has to be re-done. When a crown is cemented, it can be very hard to get off, maybe even impossible, without destroying the crown. So it would need a new crown.
And the gums being sore–that’s not good. The crown is irritating the gums. That could be just because of the catching food, or it could also be that the crown doesn’t fit right at the margins or is too bulky at the margins. Do the gums hurt all the way around? or just between 13 & 14?

But re-doing the crown is going to be a big problem. If the crown didn’t fit right, the dentist shouldn’t have cemented it. If it catches food, there is probably a gap between the crown and the tooth behind it. But the dentist should have checked that when the crown was tried in and not cemented it. Now, with your gums inflamed, it’s going to be very difficult to re-do the crown because the dentist will need a new impression, and it is difficult to impossible to get a good impression in the presence of gum inflammation.

Here’s what I would do. Go back to the dentist and say:
1. That you need the crown fixed so that it doesn’t catch food.
2. You need the gums not to be sore.
3. You were told by me that this may require a new crown and that in order to get a good new impression, the gums need to be not inflamed, and the dentist needs to do whatever is necessary to get this to happen.
Good luck,
- Dr. Hall

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